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JoCo Commission Chair “Oh shucks! We need to discuss the 2013 Cow Flatulence Study. But the last time we had public meetings on this, the room rumbled when we lost control.”

JoCo County Manager “Let’s schedule a secret meeting in the bowels of the building.”

JoCo Commission Chair “Make sure all the exhaust fans are pointed towards the Courthouse. Just in case someone gets wind of this they won’t blame me. There’s an election next week and tomorrow is Halloween.”

JoCo County Manager “Don’t worry boss. No advanced notice, no minutes, no recordings and no press or public. Unless they’re downwind, no one will ever know about the votes either. Just between us, I really like it when you call me Spooky Dude, ah sorry boss. Consider it done!”

JoCo Commission Chair “Okey Spooky Dude, Depends.”

Spooky Dude “Depends?”

JoCo Commission Chair “Depends you idiot! Don’t forget Depends!”

This “Keep 50 feet from open flame” story starts in 2012. Briefly:

Wanting to know the 2012 connection between George Soros, Johnson County and Clarion Associates we filed a KORA Request and Complaint   https://nolathe.net/2012/03/21/complaint-filed-with-kansas-attorney-general/

Wanting to know the 2012 connection between George Soros, Johnson County and I.C.L.E.I. we filed a KORA Request and Complaint https://nolathe.net/2012/04/12/second-complaint-filed-with-kansas-attorney-generals-office/

Maybe due to increasing pressure or just an act of nature, shortly after these filed complaints Johnson County leaked out their I.C.L.E.I. membership had expired.  Even recently one Commissioner was quoted to have said “We aren’t a member of ICLEI, I had Spooky Dude confirm that.”  NOlathe and others have often said that getting JoCo out of I.C.L.E.I was much easier than getting I.C.L.E.I. out of Johnson County. In the years 2013, 2014 and 2015 since leaving I.C.L.E.I. George Soros and Agenda 21 is not only alive but thriving.

But unknowingly during the complaint investigations of 2012, JoCo released to The Kansas State Attorney General’s Office what will be referred to as the “stinking document” ICLEI kora letter

Or more specifically

Real stinky

“Except as ICLEI expressly authorizes in writing and in advance, Consultant shall not use, copy, modify, or distribute any of the ICLEI Property (electronically or otherwise) or any copy, adaptation, transcription, or merged portion thereof.”

A reasonable person would conclude that neither Johnson County nor Consultant may use ICLEI name or property without written/prior approval. Spooky Dude says “Depends!

On October 30, 2014 held a secret meeting to discuss the  2013 Cow Flatulence Study provided here October 30, 2014 unrecorded meeting document

  • Just like Clarion Associates is ICLEI’s endorsed Charter 2020 coordinator the Brendle Group     http://www.brendlegroup.com/ is the recommended Consultant for ICLEI endorsed Cow Flatulence Studies.

Further review of the secret October 30, 2014 Greenhouse Gas 2013 documents we find

  • Johnson County’s Consultant was Brendle Group
  • For the first time in Flatulence Study History a joint study was conducted with Kansas City, Missery a current and dues paying member of ICLEI.
  • Licensed measuring and accounting property of ICLEI was used to collect and compile the data
  • ICLEI.1
  • ICLEI.2

NOlathe is quite sure that a lawfully answered KORA request would reveal a written agreement between ICLEI, Kansas City and Johnson County. These Soros Dudes are Spooky, but they ain’t stupid. They leave that to us. In 2014 our Commissioners accept a study from 2013 conducted by a group they dropped from 2012 and bet their flatulence in silence near silence.

“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”
Ken Dunwoody                                                     GOD
Henpecked Acres                                                   
One Nation
14850 W. 159th St.
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Doubling down on a bad buy

01/06/2015 1:27 PM

01/06/2015 1:27 PM

County officials must be counting on a winning lottery ticket in the next few years. That’s the only logical explanation for why the Johnson County Commission has agreed to move forward on a $22 million plan to renovate King Louie, a former bowling alley and ice rink in Overland Park.

The building itself, which county staff called, “iconic,” is worth less than the land it sits upon. Too bad no one mentioned that fact four years ago when commissioners agreed to spend $1.6 million to purchase King Louie or when they agreed to spend an additional $2 million to keep it from falling to the ground.
This December, county manager Hannes Zacharias said selling the property now would net less than $1 million after knocking it down. They had no specific plans for the space when they forked over the cash. Apparently, they believed they could never have too many failing buildings gathering dust on the books.
Now, county staff has announced grand plans for King Louie. Many of the officials advocating to spend $22 million on a worthless building are the same ones who said the county couldn’t pass up a great bargain like King Louie.
I’m not sure taxpayers should be buying anything these experts are selling. Unfortunately, the county commissioners appear ready to double down on their terrible purchase.
At a Dec. 18 meeting, four of seven commissioners granted county staff permission to move forward with the King Louie scheme. For $22 million, the building would be turned into a county arts and heritage center, house the Johnson County Museum and establish a permanent advanced voting location.
County staff listed a variety of laughable reasons why the building improvements should be funded. First, the county doesn’t have an arts or cultural center.
Staff failed to mention that the county does, in fact, regularly spend money on the arts. It maintains a public arts program that commits 1 percent of new building costs to purchasing art.
Meanwhile, county staff said the museum has mold and the hallways are too narrow. Both of those problems could be easily resolved with far less than $22 million. About one-third of King Louie would be used for the museum.
Another third of the dilapidated building would be used for a theater and parks programming, all under the direction of the county parks and recreation board. All but one member of that body recommended approval of the renovations.
Jill Gellar, executive director of the Johnson County Parks and Recreation District, told county commissioners that if the county handed them a check for $22 million, they would not use it for King Louie renovations. Instead, they would use it to develop existing parks space. So, the parks board doesn’t need King Louie, but they’ll take a free building.
At this point, the county wouldn’t even require that the board pay rent for King Louie programming. Nothing free is ever really free. I can envision a time when county staff use access to King Louie as a bargaining chip.
The King Louie project isn’t a bargain. It’s an insanity the county cannot afford.
In June, Zacharias proposed a county budget that included a tax rate increase, despite an increase in revenue generated from rising property values. Most property in Johnson County, King Louie excluded, increased in value last year, adding $10.3 million in county revenue.
Members of the commission vocally opposed a change in state law that they said stripped them of valuable revenue from mortgage tax registration fees, and Johnson County Sheriff Frank Denning threatened to take the county commission to court if they didn’t agree to fund his department to the tune of an extra 40 deputies.
Johnson County government isn’t swimming in cash.
The commission managed to add sheriff’s staff, though not in the way Denning requested, and maintain its existing tax rates in the 2015 budget. That required a “fair amount of magic to make those numbers work,” Commissioner Michael Ashcraft said when he wisely voted against moving forward on the King Louie proposal.
“That magic is going to be doubling down next year even without this,” he said.
Freelance columnist Danedri Herbert writes in this space once a month.

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King Louie is worth less than 25 percent of what Johnson County has invested in it

click to enlargeIMG_8993.jpgJohnson County tries once more to save King Louie.

Let’s say you buy a house, a fixer-upper. You know it’s going to take some money to get it in shape, but you end up spending close to the purchase price. But now it’s a dream home, right?

Now let’s say, after all that money and time, your property is worth about a quarter of your investment.

That’s one way of looking at Johnson County’s purchase of the King Louie building, at 8788 Metcalf, in Overland Park.

The Johnson County leaders who pushed to make the buy were bullish on the idea that this dilapidated former bowling alley and ice rink could be refitted to become a major attraction. They wanted to move the Johnson County Museum here from its flood-prone little building in Shawnee. The plan was to make it into a national homage to suburban life.

The county bought King Louie at the tail end of 2011, for $1.95 million. That price included the building and the surrounding land. The county then spent another $1.6 million to seal off the interior from the elements, get rid of asbestos and remove lead paint.

Today, the building still sits empty, due in part to political headwinds that still swirl around the decision to buy a building without a clear use, at a time when the lingering effects of a recession were still cramping county services.

Almost a year ago, county commissioners considered selling the building, after there weren’t enough votes to issue bonds that would have funded its renovation. As part of that consideration, the county ordered an appraisal, which came back in August 2014 but has gone uncirculated since.

That appraisal pegs the property’s open-market value at $850,000.

Valbridge Property Advisors judged the property’s worth after assuming the demolition of the ski-chalet-style building. The appraisal said the best and most profitable use for the property would be to build new residences on the nearly 6 acres of land.

So the county got a lousy deal on King Louie? Depends on whom you ask.

“I think it’s a matter of perspective,” says Olathe Commissioner Michael Ashcraft, a longtime critic of the King Louie acquisition. “I have had reservations about expenditures all along. You would have to have a grand debate on that.”

The county did not order an appraisal when it bought King Louie. Instead, it consulted with a real-estate broker.

Joe Waters, director of facilities for Johnson County, tells The Pitch that it’s not typical for the county to get an appraisal before purchasing a building.

“The assessment that was done by the real-estate broker, who was conducting the search for us and advised us on that purchase at the time, concluded that it [$1.95 million] was a very good price,” Waters says.

Ed Eilert, chairman of the Board of County Commissioners and a steady advocate for the King Louie purchase, agrees.

“If we were to be redeveloping and the building scraped off, that’s that anticipated value [$850,000] we would be looking at,” Eilert said at a December board meeting. “For our purposes, the building is significant and important and was a reasonable purchase.”

The appraisal notes that interested buyers other than the county balked at trying to reuse the existing structure, citing its atypical design and its outdated architecture. Those elements, the appraisal says, make it impossible to readapt the facility for indoor sports.

Photos in the report show standing water on the floors, and the appraisal also notes the presence of broken roof drains that leak water underground and the existence of mold in some of the restrooms.

Still, some county leaders remain optimistic that King Louie’s structure — fashioned after Googie architecture that was popular for a time after World War II but faded in the late 1960s — can be saved. The latest proposal for doing that involves a Johnson County Parks & Recreation theater and another arts-related space inside the building. That proposal also still includes the Johnson County Museum, as well as an advance-voting site. (The Enterprise Center, a county-supported business incubator once considered a King Louie tenant, is out of the mix.)

Advance voting, which had previously taken place at Metcalf South Mall, a few blocks south of King Louie, has been hailed as one of the foremost reasons to remodel the building. It was the first thing that County Manager Hannes Zacharias mentioned when presenting that latest proposal.

But Johnson County Election Commissioner Brian Newby says installing advance voting inside King Louie would be, at most, a minor help for his department. And he tells The Pitch that he was first told of the idea to put advance voting in King Louie roughly an hour before the Board of County Commissioners was first publicly told of the idea to buy the building, in 2011.

“It wasn’t like anyone consulted with me back in the day,” Newby says. (Or later, for that matter. Newby wasn’t invited to speak during December’s board meeting, when the newest King Louie idea went before commissioners.)

Advance-voting locations have typically been pop-up leases around the county when elections draw near, similar to the seasonal Halloween shops that ink short-term tenancies in strip malls every autumn. Newby says moving one advance-voting location to a permanent spot would save him the hassle of negotiating another lease (and about $25,000 a year). But he would still have to find leases for as many as three other stations.

Zacharias told commissioners that the latest idea would give Johnson County a true arts culture that’s lacking in the metro’s wealthiest county. He pointed out that other places in Kansas have had arts centers for years. “Manhattan, Lawrence, Salina — Hays, for heaven’ sakes,” he said.

But dreams come at a cost. County staffers project that getting King Louie ready for this newest idea would cost $22 million, a figure that includes the sunk costs of the building’s acquisition and early remediation. The county would issue bonds to finance the project, which means that it would pay $1.5 million in debt service annually for 20 years — growing Johnson County’s overall cost to $30 million.

The proposal goes back to the commissioners for a final vote as early as February. King Louie has split the board the past two years, with a one-vote majority nixing any more money spent on the building.

Steve Klika, an Overland Park commissioner who has been vocally skeptical in the past, is a swing vote on the project, having signaled that he’s warming to this newest plan.

Ashcraft still seems unconvinced by the heft of King Louie’s financial obligation, particularly given other ways that he says the county could spend taxpayer money.

“Quite honestly, I look at all the needs our community has, and while I respect their effort and presentations, I think $1.5 million [in annual debt service] can be spent much more effectively and have a much more significant impact on core services that we should be doing, that we should be considering, but we don’t,” Ashcraft says.

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The King Louie Appraisal 201408FormerKingLouieAppraisalReportwithPIV  made public by us, raised many questions. Some have previously been answered and posted. Today we share our conclusions about the delay from April availability and December disclosure starts here:

From: Kdunwoody2@aol.com
To: Cynthia.Dunham@jocogov.org
CC: Michael.Ashcraft@jocogov.org
Sent: 12/28/2014 10:56:43 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: Kansas Open Records Act Requests
Thank you for your response. Please expand KORA to include the following:
1) Document authorizing Appraisal.
2) Billing document(s) for Appraisal.
3) Document notifying one or more BOCC of Appraisal availability.
4) Document that authorizes BOCC liaison to Parks & Rec Commission to vote as the 8th P&R member.
5) Document that allows BOCC liaison to vote as P&R and BOCC member on same issue.
Trusting you and family had a safe and joyous Christmas.
Ken Dunwoody

Authorization to perform the Appraisal occurred in March 2014 NOTICETOPROCEEDemailsPart1

Following the receipt of the completed Appraisal in April 2014 and acknowledging now identified structural problems, the County authorized a second appraisal using a different approach in May 2014  NOTICETOPROCEEDemailsPart2 . NOlathe notes that between the first and second approach there was no difference in either the structural status or value.

Invoices Invoice(Partial)ValbridgeAppraisalof8788Metcalf and Invoicedated8-29-2014ValbridgeAppraisalof8788Metcalf

We have clearly identified that the County had this information in April 2014. Now view this one minute introduction on December 18, 2014 by the County Manager (voice only).

Even though the Appraisal was a public document and KORA accessible since April, knowledge of its existence was not known until December. Why? Answer- November 4, 2014 King Louie was an election issue.  With the why, when and what answered, let’s look at who.

Commissioners Toplikar, Allen and Klika were not on the ballot.  Toplikar   Allen    Klika

Commissioners Ashcraft and Osterhaus have long standing positions against King Louie.  Ashcraft    Osterhaus

Commissioner Peterson lost primary in August 2014.  Peterson then instructed County Manager in November to proceed with project and make it public knowledge.

7-6= Commission Chairperson Eilert

Boy were we surprised!

“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”
Ken Dunwoody                             GOD
Henpecked Acres                          One Nation
14850 W. 159th St.
Olathe, Ks. 66062


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Reading the 11/19/14 Minutes from the Parks & Recreation Commission found here Board Report 12-15-2014 beginning at the bottom of pg. 10/54 (pg. 5/9 11/19/14) it was readily apparent the discussions regarding King Louie were not necessarily part of the scheduled Agenda. If not for the consistent pursuit for discussion by P&R Commissioner Pirner, there may very well have been no discussion at all.

With the subject now open for discussion, other Commissioners joined Mr. Pirner in voicing a collective concern about this evolving in the shadows topic. Mr. Pirner suggested and received approval for more discussions with a to be announced P&R Committee of the Whole Meeting 12/15/14 prior to the County Board of Commissioners Meeting already scheduled for 12/18/14.

The air error of doubt now in the wind certainly accounts for the all hands on deck response by 18 paid County employees taking muster against a 3 member Committee Meeting 12/8/14 described here https://nolathe.net/2014/12/28/county-seasonal-date-nut-bread-seven-nuts-and-a-pinch-of-dates/

We sought out P&R Commissioner Pirner and with his permission are sharing the discussion. (Mike Pirner can be contacted at mpirner@yahoo.com )

NOlathe- It seems from the Minutes, 11/19/14 was the first time any real discussions occurred regarding use of King Louie. You were pretty much responsible for generating that discussion and the need to schedule COW for 12/15/14 prior to a vote on 12/17/14. Do you believe that would have occurred without your prompting?

Mike Pirner- “I am not confident that the issue would have been discussed extensively that particular evening unless I had raised it to the degree I did. As I mention below, I only became aware of serious discussions involving King Louie until about 3-4 hours prior to that meeting. I had a meeting with Director Geller before the meeting and she agreed to have it addressed at the meeting during her remarks in response to my concerns.. My concern was that given information I had gathered (which proved to be true) that the vote on the BOCC level was going to take place on Dec 18th and our regularly scheduled meeting the night before would not be enough time, so they decided to move our meeting up to the 15th, at which there would be a thorough presentation and discussion. Based on my understanding, the BOCC wanted us to weigh in on the proposal prior to their vote, so I think we would eventually heard about it, but as I said, I am not confident that discussion would have occurred had I not raised it on that particular night. I felt regardless of the vote outcome, it deserved a thorough vetting”.


NOlathe- Do you recall approximately when you first became aware of King Louie discussions?

Mike Pirner- “I became aware of the serious King Louie discussions involving serious involvement approximately 3-4 hours before the Parks & Rec Board Meeting on November 19th.”


NOlathe- Were you ever made aware of an “Appraisal” for King Louie that prompted these discussions?

Mike Pirner- “I was not aware of that appraisal other than I was aware the building was not of high value and needed tremendous upgrades (hence the $18+ million in additional work that needs to be done) in order to be functional.”


NOlathe- Have you read the “Appraisal” that I made public and would you feel safe there?

Mike Pirner- “I can’t speculate on that, but certainly the building needs serious upgrades or needs to be torn down. I cast my no vote on the measure for a number of reasons, one being that I felt it was not worth the price tag, regardless of any positive benefits that may result.”

“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”
Ken Dunwoody                                                  GOD
Henpecked Acres                                              One Nation
14850 W. 159th St.
Olathe, Ks. 66062

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On 12.8.14 the Administrative Services Committee held a meeting. Roll call showed Paul, Chris and Nancy present and Eric absent. Three of the four members present provided a quorum.

But wait, there were eighteen guests also present. All eighteen of these guests were paid employees of the County. Seventeen of them under the direct supervision of the big guy himself who was also present. Purpose: overwhelm the three volunteer committee members just how great life would be in King Louie (even though the paid staff was unable to answer many questions with certainty).  Minutes of 12.8.14 Meeting available here Board Report 12-15-2014

One week later 12.15.14 Parks & Rec Committee of the Whole discussed. (Minutes not available).

Moments later 12.15.14 Parks & Rec Commissioners approved. (Minutes not available).

Three days later 12.18.14 County Committee of the Whole (aka Board of County Commissioners) approved. (Minutes not available however may be viewed here).




 Isn’t the year-end rush of 2011 what got us here?
“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”
Ken Dunwoody               GOD
Henpecked Acres            One Nation
14850 W. 159th St.
Olathe, Ks. 66062

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Johnson County Board of County Commissioners have now disclosed that the King Louie Property is currently worth $850,000 assuming the demolition of the King Louie Building at an estimated expense of $400,000.

So let me get this straight.  We are still paying interest on the $3,600,000 that we have already spent and if we spend another $400,000 (making $4,000,000 total) we’ll have something valued at 21.25% of our investment?  Sound impossible, even for government? Here is what we discovered.

  • Because the initial purchase was made with cash tax dollars, no one thought or were required to have an appraisal of the property. (Confirmed by KORA request)
  •  The leasing bank failed their fiduciary responsibilities to acquire an appraisal to ensure the funds were secured by a like valued asset. (Confirmed by KORA request)

After nearly 3 years of public resistance/resentment following this purchase and repairs, JoCo BOCC is attempting again to legitimize this failure of due diligence. On December 18, 2014 the existence of an appraisal was made known in an attempt to justify even more money.

NOlathe executed a lawful KORA request and received this 100 page document dated April 9, 2014  201408FormerKingLouieAppraisalReportwithPIV  just a few highlights:

Page 38- “The improvements are in a shell condition, and it is not likely that the property can continue to support the existing improvements well into the future. The building itself has exhausted its useful life and has many characteristics that pose serious challenges for conversion.”

Page 47- “Our value of the subject property with the current improvements in place is $550,000. The value of the subject property as a cleared vacant site ready for redevelopment based on the land value estimated in the following section of this report, less the demolition costs of the existing building is $850,000. Based on these estimations, it appears the current improvements do not contribute additional value to the site. We have concluded the highest and best use of the subject property to be razing the existing improvements for redevelopment to a residential use.”


So this 1959 steel and concrete building albeit iconic is wore out.

After $3,600,000 already expensed the property is only worth $550,000? But if we spend another $400,000 it might be worth $850,000?

One year ago we sued JoCo BOCC for violating The Home Rule Charter for the methods they used in replacing the County Mental Health Commission. Even though we had shown the JoCo BOCC two lawful methods to accomplish the same result, many felt we were anti Mental Health. So here we go again, many will believe we are anti Parks and Recreation.

My oath is not up for renewal every four years. Mine lasts a lifetime. Our next post will reveal more KORA information regarding this near panic to bring Parks and Rec in to King Louie January 2015.

“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”
Ken Dunwoody                 GOD
Henpecked Acres             One Nation
14850 W. 159th St.
Olathe, Ks. 66062


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